Attending this event tonight.
I've decided to write my notes here and mix them with my thoughts on the topic at hand. I'll do my best to keep track of the players for you. Refer to the link above for background information.
How do we get beyond all concerns about the future of newspapers?, Hanson poses to the audience.
To me it is not about the technology, at least not completely. How can we ensure news media are around relevant?
Cory Bergman: what will pay for journalism? ESPN is a competitor for every local news paper in America. I read it daily myself and as a result spend less time with local news about sports here in Seattle. So how can local media better connect local folks with local stores? This might be an advantage for local neighborhood blogs.
Paying for content doesn't work, well maybe for the Wall street Journalism, states Cory Haik.
We are used to paying for media though. We pay Cable TV bills, phone bills, etc. Is that because we can't use those services in the first place with out paying for it. The gatekeeper is the in the way.
Would an aggregations service work? Monica Guzman thinks there might be a balance between their own content and networked content. Cory concurs and adds that what people really need is what we do best, local coverage.
Local, local local says Corry Bergman, as they can't compete with the national media. However, they are facing strong economic pressures.
Ross notes that online news is not free. You have to pay for the internet, the computer, etc.
The public radio model works partially as it has spectrum, a nat'l public corp backing it, but especially because the audience (at least %10 of it) is willing to pay for it via pledge drives.
He speaks of mini fund drives that raise money for local stories until a journalist says I can investigate that and writes a story. (missed the reference to the show Sunday night at 8 on KUOW)
What about sites where 90% is free but the rest is special news that is paid for, wonders John Cook?
Dylan Wilbanks in the audience talks of bugmenot where you can get passwords to get around restrictions. I guess there will always be pilfering.
Cory Haik speaks of the true cost of news: lots of trimming going on, but has it been in the right way? What is expensive for big J journalism is the folks and time need to cover those stories.
Monica from the PI, speaks of being a one-person journalist. it is not as much about the article any more and a bit of a move towards the reporter, as we are sharing news in a conversational tone, and so you need a voice and a face to keep the relationship alive. Reporters are assuming risk that their organizations use to shoulder with this model. (I hope I don't slander anyone here!)
She does think it is exciting though.
Question from audience: any hope that local reporters with local access to special place will be of value as they have local knowledge.
John of TechFlash thinks there is. He says blogging is beat reporting. If you know what's going on, there's real power in that network. Not sure yet that a viable financial model there. Press pass is overrated he adds.
Cory Bergman, Publisher of MyBallad Blog notes that public officials are taking note of local blogs and including them.
With online media, it is possible to know who reads what (aggregated at least) Cory Haik notes as we can track them. You can't do this with newspapers.
Blooging is a longform of journalism, notes Monica. reporting is a process not a product, and you are letting people into that process. you tell your audience what you are working on and ask for questions to help shape your story. Exciting and fun she adds. Doesn't want to go back to the old way where that wasn't possible.
Ross of KUOW adds how people love great story tellers. And that with internet news, the paper is disaggregated as you can get your news where ever. This is not real news though if you think about it he reminds us. Sports, Entertainment media have cycles that just crank out stories all the time. The less sexy stuff like local city council meetings have a hard time competing for air time in this arena. (Until the viaduct needs to be replaced!)
Great stuff tonight I can't keep up with it all.
Establishing yourself as a singular trusted brand notes Hanson, and Monica follows up by finishing her thought that main media can focus on the high level deep journalism and stay out of the buzz.
Cory Bergam notes that the neighborhood blog hopes to be the neighborhood aggregator and being a connective tissue and let's people use the comments to keep the community conversation going on. %95 of tips come from comments on their blog, and %70 of content outside of the front page come from other sources besides themselves.
Partnering with a established news organization can help bolster niche journalism blogs, notes TechFlash editor John Cook. He's done some of the toughest story telling as a blogger, and speaks how daily beat reporting gets the news flowing. Social media keeps it circulating as the audience can comment on it.
Can the purpose of journalism be maintained while the need to make a profit? Ask an audience member. Business people need to be involved in these conversations. It is not a readership problem it is a money problem notes Corey Haik.
Will the traditional wall between the business side and news side come downs wonder Hanson.
Monica notes that the audience member's question is important. It is not where you work but what you do that defines you as a journalist.
Ross doesn't think public funding of journalism as a sole source is a good idea, as elected officials need to follow the money train and will have too much influence on the process.
I'm running out of steam. Writing and listening is hard to do, but it does keep me focused for awhile. Looking back on this I see that tweeting has affected my writing style. None the less, this would have been difficult to do via tweets methinks.
Wednesday, February 25, 2009
Saturday, February 21, 2009
Seattle Drupal Camp 02/21/2009 - Thoughts about the day #DCS0902
Oi I have a lot to learn, but here are the takeways for me today.
First the community: I appreciate the culture of sharing and helping new users. There is a tremendous amount of information about Drupal out there, and can be (is!) overwhelming when figuring out how to get started. Folks are great at mentoring you in helping you get started. I always recommend reading the manual. In this case, take some time to research your question first before asking, that way you can make better use of your time with the person you ask the question of.
Drupal is highly flexible. start slow. add incrementally and not a lot of modules right away. Think of the bicycle factory metaphor. your modules and nodes pass information along, so if you get too much there, you will confuse yourself and the system pretty quickly.
Use CCK. you will have more control and flexibility with your site.
If you are University of Washington affiliated, some of us have started a UW Drupal site to help us grow and support the community there. Find it at http://depts.washington.edu/uwdrupal.
First the community: I appreciate the culture of sharing and helping new users. There is a tremendous amount of information about Drupal out there, and can be (is!) overwhelming when figuring out how to get started. Folks are great at mentoring you in helping you get started. I always recommend reading the manual. In this case, take some time to research your question first before asking, that way you can make better use of your time with the person you ask the question of.
Drupal is highly flexible. start slow. add incrementally and not a lot of modules right away. Think of the bicycle factory metaphor. your modules and nodes pass information along, so if you get too much there, you will confuse yourself and the system pretty quickly.
Use CCK. you will have more control and flexibility with your site.
If you are University of Washington affiliated, some of us have started a UW Drupal site to help us grow and support the community there. Find it at http://depts.washington.edu/uwdrupal.
Seattle Drupal Camp 02/21/2009 - Modifying a Website #DCS0902
Greg and Robin from Civic Actions are leading a discussion around modifying their Web site in Drupal.
They start by cloning views, making changes to it then export the code. They plan to do this on the live Web site!
Dev site for development, QA for uh, and a live site.
Develop locally, use subversion to commit to the QA.
They use a script to move sites from live to QA to dev called pushDB that dumps cache tables, changes paths.
Save early and often, as some of the AJAX messages on the screen are not updated and may not reflect that a change was made but not yet saved.
They start by cloning views, making changes to it then export the code. They plan to do this on the live Web site!
Dev site for development, QA for uh, and a live site.
Develop locally, use subversion to commit to the QA.
They use a script to move sites from live to QA to dev called pushDB that dumps cache tables, changes paths.
Save early and often, as some of the AJAX messages on the screen are not updated and may not reflect that a change was made but not yet saved.
Seattle Drupal Camp 02/21/2009 - Q&A #DCS0902
Thanks to Methodologie for hosting us today!
How do get past Death by Checkbox? No good answers. But at Planet Drupal, we found a post about automating Drupal Module automatons. Uses JavaScript!
Hook form alter. Drupal forms API use that, and stay away from code that uses its own API.
Someone said there's an article on Planet Drupal that compares Drupal site development to a bicycle factory.
Nice conversation about WYSIWYG editors. TinyMCE, and Tiny Tiny MCE get good raves.
WYSIWYG API module is the wave of the future for Drupal. Works now for TinyMCE.
XINHA has a good MS Word Clean-up filter.
Store it in database as entered, filter on output is the Drupal database security model. Drupal has some input filters. Use filters and combine them with formats. Full HTML is good
lullabot site has some podcasts about security and drupal
Media Temple is a premium hosted service. Designers love the customer service. Dream host is a good place for budding programmers/site builders but up-time is not the best in town.
Jennifer Hodgdon has a good checklist for setting up Drupal sites. Drupal Cheat Sheet
What about custom error module? Most folks think the best thing to do is .htaccess and a static html page.
instead of using straight 301 redirects is to use a mod rewrite. Register.com has some examples
path redirect is a module in Drupal you can use.
Mullum is a good Spam filter service.
Legacy data to import: Node Import might be tough. Not maintained well. Likely to run into edge cases.
Mock up your node object and save it. Probably want to do it out of Drupal. Drupal Execute is your friend.
Template Suggestions in the Drupal handbook is great place to find out how to modify pages.
There is a Web services module, useful if you want a Flash front end, Drupal back end...
How do get past Death by Checkbox? No good answers. But at Planet Drupal, we found a post about automating Drupal Module automatons. Uses JavaScript!
Hook form alter. Drupal forms API use that, and stay away from code that uses its own API.
Someone said there's an article on Planet Drupal that compares Drupal site development to a bicycle factory.
Nice conversation about WYSIWYG editors. TinyMCE, and Tiny Tiny MCE get good raves.
WYSIWYG API module is the wave of the future for Drupal. Works now for TinyMCE.
XINHA has a good MS Word Clean-up filter.
Store it in database as entered, filter on output is the Drupal database security model. Drupal has some input filters. Use filters and combine them with formats. Full HTML is good
lullabot site has some podcasts about security and drupal
Media Temple is a premium hosted service. Designers love the customer service. Dream host is a good place for budding programmers/site builders but up-time is not the best in town.
Jennifer Hodgdon has a good checklist for setting up Drupal sites. Drupal Cheat Sheet
What about custom error module? Most folks think the best thing to do is .htaccess and a static html page.
instead of using straight 301 redirects is to use a mod rewrite. Register.com has some examples
path redirect is a module in Drupal you can use.
Mullum is a good Spam filter service.
Legacy data to import: Node Import might be tough. Not maintained well. Likely to run into edge cases.
Mock up your node object and save it. Probably want to do it out of Drupal. Drupal Execute is your friend.
Template Suggestions in the Drupal handbook is great place to find out how to modify pages.
There is a Web services module, useful if you want a Flash front end, Drupal back end...
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